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Greg Coppes May 9, 2013 at 11:58 pm
In our first meeting here I told you that I believed that any discussion or argument here was not…Read More done to change the minds of those involved, rather it was to influence those who are reading them; third parties.
You have been very helpful in that regard. Anyone reading our exchanges can see you for what you are.
I tried to have a discussion with you and could not even agree on the definition of words with out hours of argument
You have an agenda and you will not allow anything to get in the way of it. That agenda includes trying to circumvent and weaken the 2nd amendment and redefine it's intent.
Mark Paxson May 9, 2013 at 11:51 pm
Once again you misdirect. You made a specific statement about one California piece of legislation…Read More you claimed did very specific things and, therefore, was unconstitutional. I'm not arguing the constitutionality. I'm arguing that the factual basis, the things that legislation does, is wrong. We can't even begin to discuss the constitutionality if the facts are wrong. I have provided the evidence that your facts are wrong. You have yet to counter that evidence. And now you change the conversation to "the constitutional intricacies within hundreds of pages of proposed state & federal firearms legislation written in legalese." You made very specific factual claims about one specific piece of California legislation. I've provided the bill number as well as the analysis. And all you can do is now quibble over whether eristical is a word that I should have looked up.
I will never understand why you and the rest of the right-wingers are so incapable of understanding that if they post "facts" in the context of their arguments that are proven to be false, they believe the problem is with the person who proves them wrong. Seriously, Jeff ... if the factual basis for your claim of unconstitutional provisions is wrong, how can you keep arguing the legislation is unconstitutional? Why is it so hard for you to back up those "facts?" You're proving yourself to be no better than the rest.
Mark Paxson May 9, 2013 at 11:41 pm
You imply far too much, sir. But your further response implies other things. First, that I have…Read More ever questioned your interest in defending the Constitution. I have not. Second, that somehow those who haven't served in the military would somehow have less of a desire in preserving and defending the Constitution.
It's interesting, everybody I know who has served in the military who has expressed an opinion on the issue has stated that above all, they believe in the right of others to express their opinions, that what they were defending when they served was the beauty of the divergent views and opinions that exist in this country. Sadly, most of what you've done on Patch is contrary to that concept. As you have done everything you can to squelch any legitimate conversation about these important issues.
No, sir, I have not served in the military. A fact that I am not ashamed of. And a fact that is irrelevant as to whether or not I have a strong desire to preserve and defend the Constitution. Nothing I have suggested is an attack on the Constitution.
Pamela Smyth May 10, 2013 at 08:57 pm
We thank our teachers from elementary school through graduate school by remembering that spelling…Read More and literacy in the language of one's culture and community matters, that reading newspapers matters, that what we publish online represents their efforts to teach us how to articulate our thoughts and ideas, and how to read with care and consideration the opinions of others with that same thoughtful consideration. We thank our teachers by taking the work they do and the hours and hours of unpaid and free or volunteer work "behind the scenes" and the money they spend out of their pockets to improve the learning environment for their students seriously. Most of all, we thank them by growing up to be civil and to work hard at whatever jobs or tasks we are given in life to the best of our abilities; and if some of that work began with the encouragement and recognition given by a teacher, then that is a joyful word of thanks to all of us who were students and are indeed, today, teachers.
Nicole Mooradian April 22, 2013 at 01:43 am
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Carl Petersen III April 21, 2013 at 11:34 pm
Robert Livesay
8 minutes ago
"Herr Carl Petrersen III I have some concerns about your…Read More postings."
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Sounds like someone is a little bit upset over getting proven wrong about his allegations about the cause of our economic crash.
Carl Petersen III April 21, 2013 at 10:03 pm
Carl Petersen III
5 hours ago
Robert Livesay
2 minutes ago
'ou folks that voted for Liberals need…Read More some lessons in economics.'
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Is lesson one how the Conservative economic policy of the Bush administration crashed the economy?
Andrew M Halmay May 6, 2013 at 06:53 pm
More polarizing conversation that results in nothing. I am a liberal, and do not hate guns. I hate…Read More mentally deficient and deranged people with guns. I hate laws passed upon laws that do not address the real causes and effects of gun violence. Lots of knee-jerking on the left and right, and very little thought. That's what I hate.
beaumontdave April 20, 2013 at 06:59 pm
"Steve, like all liberal mind numbed Obama-bots, you go right to insults..." Too funny!
Jeffrey Sabatini April 20, 2013 at 04:02 pm
Hi LBV and yes, the bill authors & cosigners are punishing lawful gun owners. Several took…Read More Obama's lead, but others like DeLeon have a long anti-gun history. And I was thinking of that exact blog, but it would need to get fairly deep into constitutional law, and I'm not sure how to keep it from reading like the Infield Fly Rule or 1040 instructions. But how's this; Some of the problems Toomey had:
1. No list protections. Any crook could file an FOIA and get the full database.
2. No provisions to keep only flagged backgrounds and dump the database say every 30 days to prevent it from ever being used for confiscation.
3. No provisions to license "background agents" who could travel to gun shows to perform instant checks. Or, provisions requiring gun show promoters to provide a free kiosk with internet access & power for background agents to set up.
Toomey was a great try, but it failed to address the little things that history has well shown can turn an innocent snowball into an avalanche. When you STUDY history and the Constitution, you come to understand why the first ten Amendments were placed in their order. The 1st being the whole reason for all the blood spilled, and the 2nd to protect the rest of the document & insure no tyrant foreign or domestic could compromise or negate it. I often ask anti-gun folks to tell me what rights the 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th Amendments insure in daily life. They rarely can, which is why they don't understand what losing the 2nd really means.
navigio April 4, 2013 at 07:27 pm
You forgot the link to the declining performance.
Did you not understand my point that tuition is…Read More not the same as cost of education?
I picked an LAUSD school at random:
http://search.lausd.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/fccgi.exe?w3exec=sarc4&which=4507
search for 'expenditures per pupil from unrestricted sources' and see the district average. thats what actually gets to the school that is not set aside for something specific like additional intervention.
btw, out of curiosity, do you believe educational achievement would increase if we raised class sizes?
ATC April 4, 2013 at 06:28 pm
Once again, navigio, Facts matter; Stop making things up.…Read More
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d09/tables/dt09_059.asp
http://www.edreform.com/2012/04/k-12-facts/
http://www.capenet.org/facts.html
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/private-schools-cost-less-you-may-think
linda hanna March 3, 2013 at 10:01 pm
Dorothy you actually believe criminals can't get guns without a background check. Wow are you…Read More naive. Just because YOU don't understand why some people want a particular weapon...does not mean you can impose your ownership standards on someone else. Suppose I suggest you don't need the particular car you drive or the particlar beverage you drink? I see you are opposed to hunting. How do you feel about abortion? Typical liberal double standard at play here??
linda hanna March 3, 2013 at 09:57 pm
Totally agree. This is just the beginning of a gun grab. All it will accomplish is further…Read More restrictions on law abiding citizens. Chicago is a perfect example. Strictest gun control in the nation and highest gun crime and murder rate. Criminals do not comply with the law. Only legal citizens will lose their rights to own the weapon of their choice. Liberals are all about choice when it comes to killing an unborn, but when it comes to a lawful gunowner's choice it's a different story altogether.
jill smith February 26, 2013 at 08:41 pm
You stated you smoked three packs a day and went on to blame the cigarettes, how ridiculous. Dan…Read More who taught you these things just happen?, well they do not , they are a choice.
Pills, smoking choosing alcohol over a family, verbally abusing children, these are a choice.
It is painful to admit, but the sooner you do the easier it will be for you to take responsibility for your own actions.
Ken March 27, 2013 at 01:42 am
I see I have no response. And I'll bet the majority of people would respond "of…Read More course".....
Sorry folks, to the first airport in Oregon ( Medford,35 miles over the Northern border) , and flight time to San Diego (Southern border) from SF are nearly identical. WTH! Congratulations Bay Area...you are in Central California....Teachers need to teach and be allowed to do so.
The Captain March 27, 2013 at 01:30 am
Like I said, proves my point most definately, and Mrs. Java had a burning comment but couldn't…Read More disclose herself-Patch staff are Trolls and proven. I rest my case! Psst, change is coming, that's fine, that's only cause you mean emails will be matched and confirmed with thd person, you know Mrs. Java, like you did - post a comment, "First Name, email, and password-thank you for joint Patch :) ha ha, so easy. That would be better, but it seems you cant afford it yet! Ohh wait, trouble, if trouble is what you're trying to get us into, can we include you Mrs. Java for your Trollness ... I think you should. Common there's nothing wrong with being fair. Let's keep that in mind for the "change" woooo hooo, little baby cry.
LGCRC Coffee drinker March 26, 2013 at 02:05 am
all of you need to step way to the left or get ready to get run over.
we are coming. Change is upon…Read More us.
Lean Forward
Neil February 14, 2013 at 01:47 pm
Kudos to BeaumontDave. Due process is a choice. Dorner chose to go out in a hail of fire and…Read More bullets like he said he would in his crazed manifesto. Ultimately I am sure we will learn he shot himself in the end to avoid the firey death. Why are we so quick to blame police who put down someone that killed 4 officers and showed a willingness to harm others? He got what he deserved.
Michael W February 14, 2013 at 03:48 am
I think burning the cabin was absolutely wrong- he was staying put, they should have waited him out,…Read More as they NORMALLY do. The police would have shot him if he walked out because they were acting like a posse/mob. They exhibited THE SAME behavior when they SHOT those two women in Torrance- this UTTER LACK of tactics and training, and letting their emotions take over is my concern. A lot of bullets are being taken out of homes in Torrance right now, not to mention the older woman in the hospital. Good thing those LAPD cops were horrible shots or those women would be dead- you are okay with this???
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TGD February 19, 2013 at 04:37 pm
Jim C
10:49 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
"What is absurd is for an organization to take…Read More sides on a controversial issue that is not even part of their core mission......And to say that they should speak out on the AWB because there have been shootings on school campuses is just silly. Should they have a position on air pollution because it affects people breathing on campus? Should they have a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because some students are Jewish or there is a Palestinian club on campus? Should they have a position on the gear ratios in a '68 GTO because there is, after all, auto shop on campus?"
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Should they have a position that there maybe drug and alcohol abuse on campus? Should they have a concern about there maybe a convicted sexual predator hired as a teacher? How silly. They should concentrate on school dances and bake sale fundraising and STFU.
Jim C February 19, 2013 at 03:49 pm
What is absurd is for an organization to take sides on a controversial issue that is not even part…Read More of their core mission. This will cause a significant percentage of people to drop their membership to the PTA. It's bad stewardship, plain and simple.
And to say that they should speak out on the AWB because there have been shootings on school campuses is just silly. Should they have a position on air pollution because it affects people breathing on campus? Should they have a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because some students are Jewish or there is a Palestinian club on campus? Should they have a position on the gear ratios in a '68 GTO because there is, after all, auto shop on campus?
The PTA has, for the most part, been an organization where people of many backgrounds could get together and work for the betterment of schools and the education of the kids. This move divides people and, in my opinion, will hurt the PTA in the long run.
The Teller of Truth February 19, 2013 at 03:46 am
Well look whos buttin in and trying to start arguements over here in beautiful La Jolla.
(White on…Read More rice buddy!)
Kelly Bonanno February 27, 2013 at 12:37 am
I had no idea that metal bowls make them turn brown faster. I'm a huge avocado lover. Great info,…Read More thank you!
Larry S January 30, 2013 at 09:39 pm
Thank you, Jennifer. That movie scares me more than any horror movie :)
Breeze Summers February 11, 2013 at 07:45 pm
Rage actually makes a valid point, I'm guilty of the same behavior. I love my iPhone, though I will…Read More agree with some posts that it's days are numbered. The iPhone 5 is just like a fat girl who lost weight, no matter how skinny she gets, she still the same person.
Breeze Summers February 11, 2013 at 07:38 pm
I second that Teri, I'm happy I won't live to see the likes of all these rappers, gangsters, etc…Read More with green skin. What a sad sight that will be in 2060 to see 80 year olds with saggin pants and the skin tone of ET listening to vintage hip hop!
jerryflores February 27, 2013 at 06:57 am
This is outrageous! As a former Drill Instructor and Vietnam Veteran, I can tell you, allowing women…Read More into combat will tremendously increase the death rate of American soldiers; not only will they engage in battle, but in our culture, the man looks after the female. As such, they would carry the extra burden of LOOKING AFTER the female and in doing so, put themselves in harms way. Women are not capable of carrying/running with a 60 pound ruck sack, weapons and ammunition; Because some women in the military dress like a man, walk like a man and looks like a man, doesn't mean they are men. Female soldiers need to stay in jobs such as administrative, culinary and medical. I had great admiration for the nurses in Vietnam. Although, they were not sent into combat, many faced the enemy during raids, some were wounded, one was killed, but not because they were in the front lines of battle. What will the well trained infantry man do when his female counterpart starts cramping or that time of the month comes around? Yes, there are some men that are weak, but they learn to carry their load. All soldiers male and female must pass a yearly physical fitness test and qualify with their assigned weapon, but that alone does not qualify them for combat.Some women enter the military for one reason, and that is to find a husband. I know, In my platoon, four of the females made it clear that was the only reason they joined the military. No, women do not belong in combat!
Michelle Kye January 16, 2013 at 05:03 pm
I hope the Feds start hiring more but I am not optimistic. Just received a response to a federal…Read More analyst position I applied for last month notifiying me that they "received thousands of applications" and would start reviewing them just as soon as they received more information about their 2013 budget. Thousands of applications! I might as well buy lottery tickets.
Vito Spago January 15, 2013 at 01:16 am
Flippers have to be careful. They can be burned badly. They key to successful flipping is…Read More getting the houses at a very low price. I do not think that is possible any more.
Kim January 14, 2013 at 11:30 pm
Vito, I had noticed houses are being flipped and the colors, fixtures, etc are common in many of the…Read More flips so your housing comments make sense. It isn't unusual for a house to be bought at bank auction for 260k one month and list at 400k the next after a whirlwind flip.
Diego Rose January 17, 2013 at 03:00 pm
Our local stations give us the current news outlets they do, and some people in a way think that…Read More Al-Jazeera is worse? I wonder why? They obviously have not ever watched it. It is currently available. From what I can tell, it seems to be a more straight forward broadcast. Journalism is really supposed to just be about reporting the facts. ALL JOURNALIST have the same type of oath to that truth. It seems much harder to find it in the US broadcast though. Why?
Diego Rose January 16, 2013 at 02:16 pm
You really do sound as dumb as picture infers you might be! It's obvious your just a brainwashed…Read More bigot. You bought everything they sold you and now your mad. Sorry
desertpatriot January 16, 2013 at 01:41 pm
@stinkin' rose: before forming an opinion on the pro-islamic 'all-jazzy' network please do yourself…Read More a favor and turn off the tv, push away from the computer and GO TRAVEL ABROAD!!! in the meantime, for your own sake as well as others shut your pie hole
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