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'Occupy' Movement Spreads to Desert

Several groups have popped up in Palm Desert and Indio.

The Occupy Wall Street movement that spread to Los Angeles this week has now popped up 100 miles east in the Coachella Valley, where unemployment is as high as 20 percent in some desert cities.

Just short of 100 people are expected to protest Saturday, Oct. 8 from 2 to 5 p.m. outside Rep. Mary Bono Mack's Office in Palm Desert, according to an organizer John-Paul Valdez.

"I’m feeling a lot of response here. I think it will help put us on the map to understand we are every bit as viable as Los Angeles and New York. It might be seen as far away in terms of Wall Street but it is in every way a local movement," Valdez said.

He noted the movement is non-partisan and wants Bono Mack, R-Palm Springs, to realize that Coachella Valley residents are hurting because of the economy and the mortgage crisis.

"Our lives are more difficult here in the valley. This is the hardest hit area here in California. It’s even worse here in Riverside County," the former banker said. 

Valdez, who said his home is underwater, lives in Desert Hot Springs, which has an unemployment rate of 20 percent --  much higher than the national rate of 9.1 percent.

Two other branches of the movement have sprung up at the (COD) in Palm Desert and in Indio.

Jayel, who co-founded an anti-war group, "Come Home America Coachella Valley" at the COD, told Patch that he plans to join Valdez's event on Saturday.

"One thing I do want to make clear is that this 'Occupy' movement is not a leftist movement. It’s not a Democratic movement. It’s not a liberal tea party,'' Aheram said.

The antiwar group -- a conservative-libertarian coalition of antiwar activists -- has grown to 15 people and organized the valley's first two "Occupy Coachella Valley" events earlier this month, he said.

He said they "are protesting a policy started by a right wing conservative president and continued by a left wing president."

In Indio, a group that has dubbed itself "Occupy Coachella Valley" has an event planned for Oct. 22 at Indio City Hall.

The group is using a Facebook page to organize and spread the word.

"Soon we will move all across the valley,'' one Facebook post stated.

Steven Kippel October 07, 2011 at 03:12 PM
This has nothing to do with Obama or Bush, it has to do with the 30+ years of growing income inequality. The 99% have been getting hosed while the plutocracy has been raking in more and more out of our productivity. https://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/09/04/opinion/04reich-graphic.html There's fear about a "lost decade." The middle class has lost three decade already. Income inequality kills economic growth http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/10/study-income-inequality-kills-economic-growth
pete October 07, 2011 at 03:27 PM
Judy, it was NOT Bush, it was CONGRESS that bailed out your banks. And the Congress that did it was under a democrat majority. Laurie owes nobody any apologizes, by you on the other hand ...
Roland Alden October 07, 2011 at 03:32 PM
If Mary Bono "has nothing to do with..." the national agenda and all our problems then what the h*ll has she been doing in Congress the last thirteen years? She represents the government. If she didn't create all these problems, she still has a shared responsibility to fix them. "Shared" means listening to all sides and paying attention to facts. "Responsibility" means learning how to use a calculator so that her decision-making capacity is not limited to reading Heritage Foundation press releases.
Steven Kippel October 07, 2011 at 03:39 PM
Pete, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're blaming the Congress under Bush for TARP, but you're blaming Obama instead of the Republican Congress for the inability to get the economy moving again? I also don't see how any of Obama's policies caused the unemployment which began in 2007, or the general lack of new employment since 2001. I fail to see how any of Obama's policies began deregulating the banking sector in the early 1980s, leading to decades of banking corruption, including the S&L fiasco. I fail to see how Obama's policies are responsible for the stranglehold the banking sector has on the entire global economy, which they've had for ... well, since globalization started in earnest in the early 1990s. I fail to see how Obama is responsible for the outsourcing of jobs, the stagnation of middle class income for the past 30 years, the growing political influence of powerful, global megacorporations, and the general lack of humanity corporations have shown. I fail to see how Obama is responsible for the repeal of Glass-Steagall. I also fail to see how Occupy Wall Street supports Obama when one of thee chants is, "No more Wall Street White House" and they're planning on occupying Pennsylvania Ave.
aubrey October 08, 2011 at 04:51 PM
Does no one watch russian telivision? The US media will lie to you with all kinds of crazy reasons why things happen ... but you will keep believing everything you see in a biased paid off media source.... grow some damn brains people like actually research your shit and get the real problem.
aubrey October 08, 2011 at 04:52 PM
I just want to say I will be there protesting today. For the most obvious reasons
big dogg October 08, 2011 at 06:20 PM
good call! everyone should be watching global news. I only watch our media to see what they r brain washing us with!
Livia Sappington October 08, 2011 at 07:30 PM
I agree - "brilliant"... your comment that is; as well as so very true!
Livia Sappington October 08, 2011 at 07:34 PM
Pleeeeeeease....!!!! I would like to see your face when some of these morons succeed turning this country over to Communism... I bet you'll say you did not see it coming! Well, I suggest you open your eyes now!
Roland Alden October 08, 2011 at 07:49 PM
Yes these protests are certainly the #1 threat to the Republic. We all should start digging bomb shelters in our backyards now. Don’t forget your guns and ammo, a year’s supply of spam, and those Krugerrands. Oh yeah, better take an iPad with Atlas Shrugged in eBook format. You can also use the iPad to access Fox News; they’ll let you know when it’s safe to open the hatch and come out.
Livia Sappington October 08, 2011 at 08:19 PM
Have you ever lived under Socialism? Do you enjoy free speech and freedom of choice? The worse thing about these protesters that they have NO CLUE about what they are advocating. As an immigrant from a formerly Socialist country I am quite concerned about misguided people trying to make a "difference"... I am going there now to write about it for KPSP... I will try to find out if these people understand what the real threats to our society are... Joking is nice, Mr. Alden, but the direction this country is heading toward is not funny!
Roland Alden October 08, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Yes, I have lived under socialism. According to Fox News I’m living under it right now. And, yes, even though I am living under socialism I am still enjoying my free speech. As to your points, our country is built almost entirely by “misguided people trying to make a difference.” We absolutely worship such people. Your immediate concern today is misplaced. The protestors have an absolute right to have NO CLUE about what they are advocating. In our culture ideas, be they right, wrong, mediocre or brilliant, are not a threat and the free expression of ideas you do not understand, or ideas you do not agree with, cannot be considered a legitimate threat. The only “threat” is when enough voters take ideas seriously enough to change the outcome of an election. That too is not a threat as long as the election itself is legitimate (which is becoming an issue, but that is another subject). I think “these people” do in fact “understand what the real threats to our society are” and I encourage you to go talk to them. However, even if they do not understand they retain the right to say what they feel. Terrible disruption of the peace and quiet; be it a politician’s office or a public epicenter of power, such as Wall Street or Washington DC, is allowed and encouraged by our laws and customs. The stories of most such events end up being part of the American history that we are so proud of.
uncle barry October 09, 2011 at 05:03 PM
Like I've been saying these past 10 days. The more I hear from the "Occupiers"---the more it seems they have in common with The Tea Party. Except the TP doesn't take hostages nor do they force themselves into public spaces illegally.
Roland Alden October 09, 2011 at 05:58 PM
You are absolutely right, except for three small details. 1) The Tea Party does take hostages, 2) It does not take force to occupy a public space; and 3) It is not illegal to occupy a public space.
Steven Kippel October 09, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Socialism isn't antagonistic to free speech or free choice. You're thinking of authoritarianism. But I don't see what this has to do with Occupy. It's not a socialist movement. I think it's funny that you seen to know what we're protesting more than the actual protesters. Why don't you let us speak for ourselves. We know what we're for and what we're against. It's you who have no idea what we're about. You just take your talking points from your right-wing website of choice and project that lie onto us. We're not anti-corporation, we're anti corruption. Corporate charters are granted by us, we the people, through our government to protect capital investment from risk. We do this because we value risk, so we want to protect those who would risk their capital. But these corporations have abused the privileges we've given them to wrest control of the government away from we the people and into the hands of the wealthy elite. We the people want our country back. We don't want to bring an end to corporations, just corporate practices that aren't in the best interest of we the people. Stop corporations from abusing workers, spoiling the environment, and buying politicians. They can run profitable businesses still, they just have to respect who gave them the right to exist in the first place. We the people.
Roland Alden October 09, 2011 at 11:59 PM
Steven, I think you are about to induce an aneurysm in someone. According to Objectivist dogma the rights of corporations (because they are just people too) are not derived from “the people”. They are innate rights. The rights of people/corporations to exploit any and all resources shall not be abridged, as long as the exploitative transaction is “freely entered into”; where “freely” is defined as an absence of brute force, not a presence of equality, justice, fairness or any other term that is not an antonym of “brute” (Ayn Rand’s favorite word). Objectivism, which the Tea Party co-opts in a crude and ignorant way (making Ayn Rand seem ten times wackier than she was), is essentially fundamentalist in nature. There is no need for subtle distinctions between justice, egalitarianism, socialism, communism, or totalitarianism. Their world is black and white, and they like it that way.
Far west coast October 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM
Occupy wall street, I have listen to interviewers for days now on TV and radio. I listen to the rambling of young men and young women, saying that the 3 million dollar bonus are obscene and should be taxed and the rich should be taxed, that their should be $20.00 minimum wage, that Corporate American is stealing their future. Well lets go further, Hollywood actors and actresses you make a movie good or bad you only can make 1/2 million dollars per movie. Your a NBA player, really don't care if your Kobe or Joe Schmuck you should not make any more then $10,500 per game. If you play MLB does't matter who you are I say $3,500 per game. If you play NFL, contact sport they should not make any more then $50,000 per game. Your R singer or song writer no more then 1/2 million per song. Attorney you get 1/3 of the settlement up to $350,000. The client you get 2/3 of the settlement up to 1/2 million dollars Whether Hollywood actors or actresses , NBA NLB, or NFL, song writer, singer AAttorney or client all money above my stated levels must be returned to the Government in the form of Taxes. This way the young men and women, the US poor, handicap and the Government debt can be eliminated. Class war fair will not exist, and all can live as Happy Campers.
Steven Kippel October 10, 2011 at 10:39 PM
This, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of someone who doesn't get it. He/she creates a straw man argument against a movement they know nothing about to make it sound silly, when all they're doing is showing how ridiculous they are by presenting a scenario that hasn't been given by Occupy Wall Street and the New York General Assembly. Or you can get the real story: http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/
Far west coast October 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM
@Steven Kipple I get it. That is what bothers me, any time you want a free handout or a hand out because you think some one else has a leg up on you. ......................Your are dipping in to the cauldron of Socialism..................... Steve.... Paint it anyway you want, but at the end of the day it is Socialism that the movement is built on. Margret Thatcher said , "Whats wrong with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money". Ask Marie-Atoinette, she callously stated "let them eat cake" it got her a one way ticket to the guillotine. Funny about history it has a way of returning to haut todays society. Young people didn't study history in High School and God knows in College. If they did it wasn't history as many Red White and Blue Americans know it. One should always study history.for the fear of repeating it. This is a Socialist movement..... any way you paint it.....color it........ describe it. OMG I have had this handle "Far West Coast" longer then you can even imagine.
Steven Kippel October 10, 2011 at 11:53 PM
This isn't a socialist movement. Some people involved might be socialist, but the demands are not socialist. We're not demanding hand outs, we're not demanding government control of production. We're demanding the government actually represent the people of these United States instead of the moneyed interests. We're not asking for the government to give us anything except a voice in government.
Steven Kippel October 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM
I think it's funny that you seen to know what we're protesting more than the actual protesters. Why don't you let us speak for ourselves. We know what we're for and what we're against. It's you who have no idea what we're about. You just take your talking points from your right-wing website of choice and project that lie onto us. We're not anti-corporation, we're anti-corruption. Corporate charters are granted by us, we the people, through our government to protect capital investment from risk. We do this because we value risk, so we want to protect those who would risk their capital. But these corporations have abused the privileges we've given them to wrest control of the government away from we the people and into the hands of the wealthy elite. We the people want our country back. We don't want to bring an end to corporations, just corporate practices that aren't in the best interest of we the people. Stop corporations from abusing workers, spoiling the environment, and buying politicians. They can run profitable businesses still, they just have to respect who gave them the right to exist in the first place. We the people.
Steven Kippel October 10, 2011 at 11:59 PM
Look at this socialist, communist, leftist protester. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0cp_DyfiRU
Far west coast October 11, 2011 at 12:07 AM
To all who read this: To everyone out there Please, Please ,Please go to the site Steve Kipple has referenced for you and read the manifesto under a appealing name they have come up with, "New York General Assembly". I say call it any name you want, color it anyway you want, describe it any way you want............... it is still SOCIALISM. Then take the opportunity to look up Socialism...................................................... read carefully a dictionary description of what socialism is. Then return to the web site Steve Kipple references and read it again. Every group is represented under the guise of a wrong, from environmentalist, discrimination, Peta, energy, unions etc. the manifesto lays it all out for you to read and see. Yes, Ladies and Gentleman it is a perfect example of people who really don't get it. And want you to buy into it. OMG
Far west coast October 11, 2011 at 12:40 AM
@steve and your ilk, You want a" voice in government", I agree. Start by getting this organization of yours to obey the rule of Law. Pick out a candidate that represent your manifesto which you reference in a early post. Find Candidates thru out the country...... New York......Chicago,.....Milwaukee,.....Denver,....Phoenix,.....Los Angles etc. Back your chosen candidates, get out and stomp for your chosen candidates use the Democratic process to turn your ideas into governance. Then you can change American by the American Rules. Go for it Steve Kipple and others of same ilk. And don't say it can't be done. The Tea Party rose from the ash and but candidates on the voter ticket and a fair share won. You and your ilk can do the same this can be done. If you chose this path I sincerely mean good luck. OMG
Judy October 11, 2011 at 09:42 AM
Wow Far West Coast! I think we WILL follow your sage advice and pick candidates, stomp for them, and turn our ideas into governance! 2012, here we come! I think we got a really good start, and this train has left the station. I would never say it can't be done. I would say it must be done, if we're to have a Middle Class left in this country. Think about it, this country would be brought to it's knees if the Middle Class disappeared (and we're heading in that direction) . I do want to point out that there's a broad range of ages in this movement. I get annoyed (and flattered) about being portrayed as some "young'n", (I'm not). Lastly, the classic old school scare tactics are soooo yesterday. Stop already with the " we will become Socialists". I am not afraid. You are. I will not live in some manufactured "fear", perpetrated by the 1% focus groups. I'm an American, born here, and I can assure you that average Americans will always ultimately take the high road, with the moral courage and conviction to set things right again.
Steven Kippel October 11, 2011 at 03:36 PM
You clearly have no idea what socialism is. Go by your dictionary definition: "A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." This isn't what Occupy Wall Street is seeking. We're not seeking for public ownership of the means of production. We're not seeking for public ownership of the means of distribution. We're not seeking for public ownership of the exchange (currency). You're missing the point just because you want to fit reality into your pre-conceived biased opinions. It's too bad you don't understand nuanced political theory. This movement isn't looking for centralized control of anything, but of broad control. We're fighting against centralized control, not for it. But that's something you probably couldn't grasp. We're on Wall Street because too much wealth is controlled by too few individuals. We're at the White House because too much power is controlled by too few individuals. We want a free society, where we the people have power. Socialism puts too much power into the hands of too few individuals. Capitalism puts too much wealth into the hands of too few individuals. We're looking for a third way. Private ownership of production, distribution and exchange, but regulated so nobody gains too much power. The philosophy is called Distributism.
Steven Kippel October 11, 2011 at 03:40 PM
What's the difference between the government owning all of the production, distribution and exchange and a small group of elitists owning all of the production, distribution exchange? The second one also owns the government. When the elite controls the production, distribution and exchange, and also controls the government, you have plutocracy.
Far west coast October 11, 2011 at 04:16 PM
@judy, Great, I encourage your belief in the rule of Law and the right of a American citizens. In regards to age.... well I haven't been to a rally yet, but that will come to a end today. Look at the pictures on the news mainly young people actually a majority. The Monterey x Fred Warning protest the picture shows young people and two middle age guys smiling in the back round. And I wouldn't call that a crowd either. More like a handfull of ten. Other pictures show young people again, news videos show the young people again. You Judy and others like you are a minority in this crowd at best. Stay on the sidewalk, stay out of the public's way, do not destroy property, do occupy private space and most of all I can only hope you can muster up a candidate or more thru out the country. Then your movement with its "New York General Assembly" "manifesto" can put it out there for all to see and vote on your beliefs thru your candidate. Now!!!!!!!!!!! that is the American way! OMG
Far west coast October 11, 2011 at 04:21 PM
@Judy, I did not say you will become a socialist. I am saying that after you read the........." New York General Assembly" "manifesto" and you adhere to those beliefs you are a socialists. OMG
Steven Kippel October 11, 2011 at 04:46 PM
Yeah, just look at all these socialist agenda items: They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. They have sold our privacy as a commodity. They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them. They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit. OMG! THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US ALL! RUN FOR THE HILLS!

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